`d@ tdwyr lnfyt llktrwny@: 460 Tnan tuSdWr l~ lswyd l`d@ tdwyrh Dmn lm`yyr l`lmy@.. mbdr@ mn 'lf blt`wn m` rykswn..br`y@ wHDwr m`ly wzyr ltSlt jml jrH, 'Tlqt shrk@ 'lf, bdr@ 'wrskwm lltSlt, wshrk@ rykswn, lmwrWid l`lmy lry'd lHlwl wkhdmt tknwlwjy ltSlt, mbdr@ 'wl~ mn nw`h fy lbnn l`d@ tdwyr lnfyt llktrwny@E-Wastetm fy Trh twDyb Hwly 460 Tnan mn lnfyt llktrwny@ lmnthy@ lSlHyW@ k'jhz@ lrsl wlhwy'yt wGyrh knt mkhzn@ fy mstwd`t 'lf. wbwshrt `mly@ `d@ tSdyr lmwd lty HumWlt fy 35 mstw`b, l~ lswyd `br mrf' byrwt, Hyth sy`d tdwyrh wfq lm`yyr l`lmy@. w'u`ln `n hdhh lmbdr@ fy mw'tmr SHfy 'qym lywm fy fndq lw Gry HDrh ry'ys mjls dr@ shrk@ 'lf wmdyrh l`m lmhnds mrwn lHyk wmdyr rykswn lmnTq@ shml lshrq l'wsT lmhnds mHmd drGm wmsw'wlwn mn lshrktyn wf`lyt jtm`y@ w`lmy@. wt'ty hdhh lmbdr@ Dmn brnmj "'lf mn 'jl lTby`@" wltzm 'lf khT@ ltnmy@ lmstdm@ ll'mm lmtHd@ 2030 wlshm fy tshyl yjd Hl l'zm@ lnfyt `br lm`lj@ lmsw'wl@ llnfyt llktrwny@drGmbdy@, knt klm@ drGm ldhy shdWd b'nh "l ymkn ltqlyl mn 'hmy@ `mly@ `d@ tdwyr lnfyt llktrwny@, Hyth ymkn llt'thyr lbyy'y 'n ykwn Dran bdwn hdhh l`mly@. wtshkl lnfyt lntj@ `n l'jhz@ llktrwny@ khTran kbyran `l~ lbyy'@ dh lm ytm `d@ tdwyrh 'w ltkhlS mnh bTryq@ SHyH@". 'Df: "ys`dn lt`wn m` shrk@ 'lf fy mjl `d@ tdwyr lnfyt llktrwny@ mn 'jl zyd@ lw`y Hwl hdh lmwDw` wDmn lt`ml m` lmntjt llktrwny@ mnthy@ lSlHy@ bshkl mthly mn khll tbny Trq 'kthr msw'wly@ lt`zyz stdm@ llbyy'@lHykwtHdWth lmhnds lHyk ldhy ql: "hdh lHdth l'wl wfryd mn nw`h fy lbnn y'ty fy Zl Htdm 'zm@ lnfyt wtd`yth lslby@ `l~ lbyy'@ bshkl `m wn`ksh lslby `l~ SH@ lnsn wlftwr@ lstshfy'y@". 'Df: " 'lf km `wdtkm 'khdht `l~ `tqh b'n tkwn `nSr yjby fy lmjtm` wmSdr s`d@, why HDr@ ll`b dwr yjby lHl 'y@ mshkl@ jtm`y@ 'w byy'y@ 'w lD@ `l~ fkr@ mn lmmkn 'n ts`d fy yjd lHlwl, fnHn mw'mnwn b'nh mn l'fDl 'n nDy shm`@ `l~ 'n nl`n lZlm@, wlywm nHn nDy shm`@ fy ms'l@ m`lj@ 'zm@ lnfyt blt`wn m` ryskwn wbld`m lkml mn wzr@ ltSlt wm`ly lwzyr jrH'Df: " "SHyH 'n ltqdm wltTwr ltknwlwjy lh jwnb yjby@ wlkn lh mthl 'y 'mr akhr slbyt wathr jnby@, wmnh ldmn `l~ wsy'l ltwSl `l~ sbyl lmthl, wlathr ljnby lakhr ytmthl blnfyt llktrwny@". 'Df: "km t`lmwn, fn 'lf t`ml fy lbnn mndh 24 sn@, wlsr`@ lkhyly@ lty ntqln bh mn ljyl ltny llthlth (2011) fljyl lrb` (2013) fljyl lrb` lmtqdm4G+ (2016) GHyth kn 'wl mshGl yTlq hdhh ltknwlwjyt klh fy lbnn, wqryb jd l5, hdhh lsr`@ ntj `nh trkm wtkdWs kmyW@ kbyr@ mn lnfyt llktrwny@ fy mstwd`tn, why m`dWt lktrwny@ Gyr SlH@ llstkhdm , why tkbWd klf@ Dfy@ `l~ lshrk@ nZr lDrwr@ lmHfZ@ `lyh fy lmstwd`t". 'Df: "mn hn 'tt fkr@ `d@ tdwyr hdhh lnfyt lmkdWs@ khll lq m` msw'wlyn fy rykswn fy lswyd. wnHn `l~ thq@ b'nh st`lj b'fDl lm`yyr l`lmy@ wl`lmy@ fy lswyd ky l tkwn mSdr mlwth wsm llbyy'@ fy lbnn wkwkb l'rD ldhy nHn jz l ytjz' mnh".'Df: "blG Hjm lnfyt llktrwny@ lmntj@ `m 2016, 45 mlywn Tn mtry, 20 blmy'@ mnh fqT tm tdwyrh bshkl mnsb yr`y l'ss lmTlwb@. wnHn nbdr lywm mn khll hdhh lkhTw@ fy tSdyr 046 Tn mn hdhh lnfyt tmW twDybh fy 35 mstw`b kmrHl@ 'wl~ lttm m`ljth b'fDl l'ss l`lmy@ wftHn `br hdhh lkhTw@ l'bwb lmrHl qdm@ lltkhlS mn lnfyt llktrwny@ bnfs l'ss l`lmy@ fy mrHl lHq@ mstqblwshdWd lHyk `l~ 'nW "hdhh lmbdr@ hy jz mn strtyjytn llmsw'wly@ ljtm`y@ wbrnmjn 'lf mn 'jl lHy@ ldhy ytfrW` mnh 'lf mn 'jl lTby`@ wltzmn khT@ ltnmy@ lmstdm@ ll'mm lmtHd@ 2030 wl'hdf lsb`@ `shr lty t'ty Dmn hdhh lkhT@, wbl'khS lhdf rqm 9, ldhy nHn msw'wlwn `nh fy 'lf wldhy y`n~ btHdyth lbn~ ltHty@ wlSn`@ wkl m yntj `n hdh ltTwr ltknwlwjy. wbltly dwrn hw lys fqT tHqyq ltqdm ltknwlwjy bl 'yD l'khdh bl`tbr 'y@ athr jnby@ lhdh ltqdWm". wtmn~ lHyk 'n tkwn 'lf mthl lGyrh mn lshrkt, fdh tktfn jmy` nnqdh lbyy'@, wkhtm: "ntmn~ 'n ylHq bn lakhrwn lys fqT fy lshq ltknwlwjy bl 'yD fy lshq lbyy'y wljtm`y wmwDw` m`lj@ lnfyt llktrwny@ khSwSjrHw'kWd lwzyrjrH fy klmth b'n "ljmy` `l~ `lm bm`n@ lbnn wlsh`b llbnny m` jmy` 'nw` ltlwth lmwjwd@ mthl lnfyt lSlb@ wlSrf lSHy wltlwth lkymyy'y wlSn`y ldhy yshkl 'Hd 'khTrnw` ltlwth mthl tlwth nhr llyTny whw mn lmsy'l l'ssy@ lty bd'n l`ml `l~ m`ljth ". 'Df "hnk mSdr`d@ lltlwth lkn ltlwth lSn`y wlkymyy'y hw mn l'khTr dh mn lmmkn 'n nSl l~ wqt l ymkn fyh m`ljth khS@ w'nW khTrh lslby yTl lbyy'@ wlnsn wlTby`@'Df: " ltlwth llktrwny hw mn 'khTr mSdr ltlwth khS@ fy ZlW ltTwr ltknwlwjy ldy'mG3l4Gwl5G wl- lty wSl lyh 'lf wl'stdh lHyk qbl Gyrhm)". wlft l~ 'nW "lsh`b llbnny ldyh sthlk kbyrllm`dt llktrwny@ mqrn@ bsh`wb lmnTq@ wkhS@ byn jyl lshbb lmnkhrT jdy fy tknwlwjy lntrnt wltSlt. hdhh lmbdr@ mn 'lf wrykswn hy mn 'hm lmbdrt lty ymkn 'n nrh fy mjl ltkhlS mn ltlwth lSn`y wlkymy'y wllktrwny wl'wl mr@ fy lbnn ykwn hnk w`y wltft@ l~ hdh lmwDw` l'ssy wm`ljth khS@ w'n athr lnfyt llktrwny@ wtd`yth tTl kl lbldwql: "hnk b`D lshrkt lty ttkhlS mn lnfyt llktrwny@ bshkl Gyr SHyH dh ttlfh mbshr@ fy mkbt lnfyt. 'lf HfZt `l~ hdhh lm`dt fy mstwd`th Ht~ wjdt lHl fy tSdyrh ky ttm m`ljth bshkl msw'wl. SHyH b'nW hdh l'mr lh klf@ `l~ ldwl@ wlkn hdhh lklf@ tbq~ 'ql bkthyr mn lkhTwr@ lty ymkn 'n tshklh hdhh lm`dt wlnfyt `l~ SH@ lnsn fy lbnn `lm 'n hdhh lftwr@ stdhhb fy Hl `dm ltkhlS mn hdhh lmwd bshkl SHyH l~ wzr@ lSH@ lm`lj@ lmSbyn bl'mrD lkhTyr@ wkhS@ l'mrD lsrTny@". wd` jrH " kl lshrkt lty ldyh m`dt lktrwny@ mnthy@ lSlHy@, wlys fqT shrkt ltSlt, l~ m`ljth bshkl SHWy wmsw'wl fnHwl bdhlk hdh l'mr l~ thqf@ `m@ fy lbnn, whnk dwl mthl lswyd wGyrh lty ymkn 'n ts`d fy mjl `d@ ltdwyr fhy tmlk lkhbrt llzm@ fy hdh lmjl". wtwjh jrH blshkr l`myq l'lf wlHyk lymnhm blmsw'wly@ lmjtm`y@ w`mlhm bTryq@ jdy@ wkhlq@ fy hdh lTr, aml "'n nshkWl mn khll hdhh lmbdr@ mthl llakhryn ly`mlw blnhj nfsh w'n n`ml wnshm swy fy m`lj@ qDy thny@ mshbh@